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		<description>Unframed is a podcast exploring the contemporary arts in South Africa. Through conversations with visual arts professionals - including artists, curators, gallerists, writers, collectors - we hope to gain inspiration and insight into the industry and people’s careers. The series is hosted by Anthea Pokroy, a Johannesburg-based artist and photographer.</description>
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		<title>S04 E07: ‘The Art Prize’ with Bulumko Mbete and Buhlebezwe Siwani</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this final episode of the season, we delve into the multifaceted world of art prizes. with two remarkable artists – Bulumko Mbete and Buhlebezwe Siwani, each bringing their unique perspective and experiences to the table.<br />
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Bulumko, the 2024 Absa L’Atelier Gerard Sokoto Award winner and 2023 recipient of the Cassirer Welz Award, is currently doing her MFA at Carnegie Mellon University in the US. Her practice reflects her deep exploration of craft and design methodologies, particularly those traditionally performed by women in Southern Africa. She offers candid insights into the transformative potential of art prizes in shaping artists careers, alongside a nuanced reflection on the uncertainties and complexities they entail.<br />
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Amsterdam-based Buhlebezwe was the recipient of the prestigious Standard Bank Young Artist Award in 2021 and has recently been shortlisted amongst 21 artists from all over the world for the 2024 Future Generations Art Prize. Buhlebezwe, whose practice explores spirituality through performance, installation, photography, and more, shares insights into the impact of these awards on her practice, and offers advice to emerging artists on applying for prizes while emphasizing the importance of resilience and kindness in the art world.<br />
 <br />
In separate conversations with each artist which will feature in two parts in this episode, we examine the implications, benefits, and challenges of both grassroots prizes and highly esteemed prizes. In both interviews, we navigate a spectrum of perspectives, embracing both the optimism surrounding artist prizes' potential to elevate artist visibility and the healthy skepticism that prompts us to critically examine their broader implications.<br />
<br />
Season 4 is made possible by the generous support of the PESP funding by the National Arts Council and Department of Sport, Arts and Culture. <br />
<br />
Subscribe, review, like and follow @unframedpodcast <br />
<br />
Production for Season 4:<br />
Anthea Pokroy (Project Lead & Host)<br />
Nkgopoleng Moloi (Co-Host)<br />
Niamh Walsh-Vorster (Project Manager)<br />
The Audio Room & This Audio is Visual (Sound Engineers)<br />
Alyx Carolus (Social Media)<br />
Sanele Balintaba (Design) <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2024 07:58:00 +0200</pubDate>
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Bulumko, the 2024 Absa L’Atelier Gerard Sokoto Award winner and 2023 recipient of the Cassirer Welz Award, is currently doing her MFA at Carnegie Mellon University in the US. Her practice reflects her deep exploration of craft and design methodologies, particularly those traditionally performed by women in Southern Africa. She offers candid insights into the transformative potential of art prizes in shaping artists careers, alongside a nuanced reflection on the uncertainties and complexities they entail.
 
Amsterdam-based Buhlebezwe was the recipient of the prestigious Standard Bank Young Artist Award in 2021 and has recently been shortlisted amongst 21 artists from all over the world for the 2024 Future Generations Art Prize. Buhlebezwe, whose practice explores spirituality through performance, installation, photography, and more, shares insights into the impact of these awards on her practice, and offers advice to emerging artists on applying for prizes while emphasizing the importance of resilience and kindness in the art world.
 
In separate conversations with each artist which will feature in two parts in this episode, we examine the implications, benefits, and challenges of both grassroots prizes and highly esteemed prizes. In both interviews, we navigate a spectrum of perspectives, embracing both the optimism surrounding artist prizes' potential to elevate artist visibility and the healthy skepticism that prompts us to critically examine their broader implications.

Season 4 is made possible by the generous support of the PESP funding by the National Arts Council and Department of Sport, Arts and Culture. 

Subscribe, review, like and follow @unframedpodcast 

Production for Season 4:
Anthea Pokroy (Project Lead & Host)
Nkgopoleng Moloi (Co-Host)
Niamh Walsh-Vorster (Project Manager)
The Audio Room & This Audio is Visual (Sound Engineers)
Alyx Carolus (Social Media)
Sanele Balintaba (Design)]]></itunes:summary>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this episode, we delve into the role of the Biennale, a pivotal contemporary art exhibition in the global art landscape. We are joined by Clive Kellner, Executive Director of the Joburg Contemporary Art Foundation, whose career spans 25 years and holds significant involvement in South Africa's art history since the country's democracy in 1994, notably, and pertinent to this conversation, with the historic Johannesburg Biennale. Also with us is Ame Bell, Director at David Krut Projects and curator of the South African Pavillion at the 2022 Venice Biennale.<br />
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Clive brings insights into the historic 1995 and 1997 Johannesburg Biennale, reflecting on the impact, significance and challenges of these events. Ame shares her experiences and perspectives from curating the South African Pavillion in Venice, offering insights into the contemporary dynamics and global influence of biennales.<br />
<br />
Together, we explore the meaningful contributions and limitations of biennales within both local and global contexts, from accessibility and representation to the broader impact of large-scale exhibitions on the global stage and the diverse participants they attract.<br />
<br />
Season 4 is made possible by the generous support of the PESP funding by National Arts Council and Department of Sport, Arts and Culture. <br />
<br />
Subscribe, review, like and follow @unframedpodcast <br />
<br />
Production for Season 4:<br />
Anthea Pokroy (Project Lead & Host)<br />
Nkgopoleng Moloi (Co-Host)<br />
Niamh Walsh-Vorster (Project Manager)<br />
The Audio Room & This Audio is Visual (Sound Engineers)<br />
Alyx Carolus (Social Media)<br />
Sanele Balintaba (Design) <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2024 08:15:00 +0200</pubDate>
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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, we delve into the role of the Biennale, a pivotal contemporary art exhibition in the global art landscape. We are joined by Clive Kellner, Executive Director of the Joburg Contemporary Art Foundation, whose career spans 25 years and holds significant involvement in South Africa's art history since the country's democracy in 1994, notably, and pertinent to this conversation, with the historic Johannesburg Biennale. Also with us is Ame Bell, Director at David Krut Projects and curator of the South African Pavillion at the 2022 Venice Biennale.

Clive brings insights into the historic 1995 and 1997 Johannesburg Biennale, reflecting on the impact, significance and challenges of these events. Ame shares her experiences and perspectives from curating the South African Pavillion in Venice, offering insights into the contemporary dynamics and global influence of biennales.

Together, we explore the meaningful contributions and limitations of biennales within both local and global contexts, from accessibility and representation to the broader impact of large-scale exhibitions on the global stage and the diverse participants they attract.

Season 4 is made possible by the generous support of the PESP funding by National Arts Council and Department of Sport, Arts and Culture. 

Subscribe, review, like and follow @unframedpodcast 

Production for Season 4:
Anthea Pokroy (Project Lead & Host)
Nkgopoleng Moloi (Co-Host)
Niamh Walsh-Vorster (Project Manager)
The Audio Room & This Audio is Visual (Sound Engineers)
Alyx Carolus (Social Media)
Sanele Balintaba (Design)]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S04 E05: ‘The Museum’ with Storm Janse van Rensburg and Kutlwano Mokgojwa</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this episode, we are joined by special guests Storm Janse van Rensburg and Kutlwano Mokgojwa to delve into the pivotal role museums play in shaping South Africa's arts landscape. <br />
<br />
Kutlwano, an art curator, writer, and administrator at the Wits Art Museum or WAM in Johannesburg, provides an insightful overview of WAM, tracing its funding journey and commitment to conserving, exhibiting, and democratizing contemporary and historical art.<br />
<br />
Storm is Senior Curator and Head of Curatorial Affairs at Zeitz MOCAA in Cape Town. With over 25 years of experience, he shares his firsthand accounts of South Africa's vibrant art scene during the mid-90s, reflecting on the transformative power of museums in fostering creativity, imagination, and storytelling. <br />
<br />
The conversation navigates through WAM's evolution, Zeitz MOCAA’s impact, and their enduring influence on South Africa's cultural narrative.<br />
<br />
Season 4 is made possible by the generous support of the PESP funding by National Arts Council and Department of Sport, Arts and Culture. <br />
<br />
Subscribe, review, like and follow @unframedpodcast <br />
<br />
Production for Season 4:<br />
Anthea Pokroy (Project Lead & Host)<br />
Nkgopoleng Moloi (Co-Host)<br />
Niamh Walsh-Vorster (Project Manager)<br />
The Audio Room & This Audio is Visual (Sound Engineers)<br />
Alyx Carolus (Social Media)<br />
Sanele Balintaba (Design) <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2024 19:14:00 +0200</pubDate>
				<podcast:season>0</podcast:season>
		<podcast:episode>0</podcast:episode>
						<itunes:title>S04 E05: ‘The Museum’ with Storm Janse van Rensburg and Kutlwano Mokgojwa</itunes:title>
		<itunes:season>0</itunes:season>
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		<itunes:author>Anthea Pokroy</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, we are joined by special guests Storm Janse van Rensburg and Kutlwano Mokgojwa to delve into the pivotal role museums play in shaping South Africa's arts landscape. 

Kutlwano, an art curator, writer, and administrator at the Wits Art Museum or WAM in Johannesburg, provides an insightful overview of WAM, tracing its funding journey and commitment to conserving, exhibiting, and democratizing contemporary and historical art.

Storm is Senior Curator and Head of Curatorial Affairs at Zeitz MOCAA in Cape Town. With over 25 years of experience, he shares his firsthand accounts of South Africa's vibrant art scene during the mid-90s, reflecting on the transformative power of museums in fostering creativity, imagination, and storytelling. 

The conversation navigates through WAM's evolution, Zeitz MOCAA’s impact, and their enduring influence on South Africa's cultural narrative.

Season 4 is made possible by the generous support of the PESP funding by National Arts Council and Department of Sport, Arts and Culture. 

Subscribe, review, like and follow @unframedpodcast 

Production for Season 4:
Anthea Pokroy (Project Lead & Host)
Nkgopoleng Moloi (Co-Host)
Niamh Walsh-Vorster (Project Manager)
The Audio Room & This Audio is Visual (Sound Engineers)
Alyx Carolus (Social Media)
Sanele Balintaba (Design)]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S04 E04: ‘The Gallery’ with Lerato Bereng and Banele Khoza</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this episode, we unpack the gallery's role in the art landscape, considering diverse gallery models, their operational dynamics, and their modes of engagement with artists, collectors and audiences. Joining us, with their unique experiences and insights of the gallery space, are Lerato Bereng and Banele Khoza.<br />
<br />
Lerato is a Johannesburg-based curator and director at Stevenson Gallery which has spaces in Johannesburg, Cape Town and Amsterdam. She holds a BA Fine Art and an MFA, majoring in curating.<br />
<br />
Banele is a Johannesburg-based artist and gallery director. He obtained a BTech in Fine Arts and has won multiple awards for his artistic practice. In 2018, Banele opened doors to his gallery BKhz in Braamfontein, which now operates from the iconic Keyes Art Mile in Rosebank.<br />
<br />
In the episode, Lerato reflects on the role of a gallerist as a creative problem solver. She provides a valuable perspective on the gallerist-artist relationship, emphasizing the importance of collaboration and the joy of working closely with artists. Banele sheds light on his journey in founding BKHZ and his innovative strategies that empower artists to direct their own careers. The conversation emphasises the human connection and how it contributes to a healthy and sustainable gallery practice.<br />
<br />
Season 4 is made possible by the generous support of the PESP funding by National Arts Council and Department of Sport, Arts and Culture. <br />
<br />
Subscribe, review, like and follow @unframedpodcast <br />
<br />
Production for Season 4:<br />
Anthea Pokroy (Project Lead & Host)<br />
Nkgopoleng Moloi (Co-Host)<br />
Niamh Walsh-Vorster (Project Manager)<br />
The Audio Room & This Audio is Visual (Sound Engineers)<br />
Alyx Carolus (Social Media)<br />
Sanele Balintaba (Design) <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2024 06:42:00 +0200</pubDate>
				<podcast:season>0</podcast:season>
		<podcast:episode>0</podcast:episode>
						<itunes:title>S04 E04: ‘The Gallery’ with Lerato Bereng and Banele Khoza</itunes:title>
		<itunes:season>0</itunes:season>
		<itunes:episode>0</itunes:episode>
		<itunes:author>Anthea Pokroy</itunes:author>
					<itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, we unpack the gallery's role in the art landscape, considering diverse gallery models, their operational dynamics, and their modes of engagement with artists, collectors and audiences. Joining us, with their unique experiences and insights of the gallery space, are Lerato Bereng and Banele Khoza.

Lerato is a Johannesburg-based curator and director at Stevenson Gallery which has spaces in Johannesburg, Cape Town and Amsterdam. She holds a BA Fine Art and an MFA, majoring in curating.

Banele is a Johannesburg-based artist and gallery director. He obtained a BTech in Fine Arts and has won multiple awards for his artistic practice. In 2018, Banele opened doors to his gallery BKhz in Braamfontein, which now operates from the iconic Keyes Art Mile in Rosebank.

In the episode, Lerato reflects on the role of a gallerist as a creative problem solver. She provides a valuable perspective on the gallerist-artist relationship, emphasizing the importance of collaboration and the joy of working closely with artists. Banele sheds light on his journey in founding BKHZ and his innovative strategies that empower artists to direct their own careers. The conversation emphasises the human connection and how it contributes to a healthy and sustainable gallery practice.

Season 4 is made possible by the generous support of the PESP funding by National Arts Council and Department of Sport, Arts and Culture. 

Subscribe, review, like and follow @unframedpodcast 

Production for Season 4:
Anthea Pokroy (Project Lead & Host)
Nkgopoleng Moloi (Co-Host)
Niamh Walsh-Vorster (Project Manager)
The Audio Room & This Audio is Visual (Sound Engineers)
Alyx Carolus (Social Media)
Sanele Balintaba (Design)]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S04 E03: ‘The Curator’ with Sven Christian and Jana Terblanche</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This episode brings together two South African curators, each contributing their unique perspective to contextualize the role of the curator as a cultural broker within the art landscape. We welcome Sven Christian and Jana Terblanche, both accomplished curators and creatives, to share their insights on the evolving nature of curatorial work.<br />
Sven, based in Johannesburg, is a writer, editor, and curator with a BA Fine Art and an MA in Contemporary Curatorial Practices. Currently, he serves as the curator of NIROX Sculpture Park and the Villa-Legodi Centre for Sculpture.<br />
Jana, located in Cape Town, has curated extensively across galleries and independently, showcasing her expertise in exhibitions for platforms like FNB Art Joburg, Investec Cape Town Art Fair, 1-54 London, and Art Rotterdam. She now holds the role of curator and director at Southern Guild Gallery.<br />
In this episode, Sven emphasizes the significance of shared thinking and scholarship, influencing curatorial practices rooted in care. He advocates for a deliberate approach to knowledge production and circulation. Jana explores the importance of aligning gallery and artist goals through interpersonal skills and relationship-building. We delve into curatorship, dissecting power dynamics and historical contexts within the local art scene.<br />
Season 4 is made possible by the generous support of the PESP funding by National Arts Council and Department of Sport, Arts and Culture. <br />
<br />
Subscribe, review, like and follow @unframedpodcast <br />
<br />
Production for Season 4:<br />
Anthea Pokroy (Project Lead & Host)<br />
Nkgopoleng Moloi (Co-Host)<br />
Niamh Walsh-Vorster (Project Manager)<br />
The Audio Room & This Audio is Visual (Sound Engineers)<br />
Alyx Carolus (Social Media)<br />
Sanele Balintaba (Design) <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2024 08:00:00 +0200</pubDate>
				<podcast:season>0</podcast:season>
		<podcast:episode>0</podcast:episode>
						<itunes:title>S04 E03: ‘The Curator’ with Sven Christian and Jana Terblanche</itunes:title>
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		<itunes:episode>0</itunes:episode>
		<itunes:author>Anthea Pokroy</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[This episode brings together two South African curators, each contributing their unique perspective to contextualize the role of the curator as a cultural broker within the art landscape. We welcome Sven Christian and Jana Terblanche, both accomplished curators and creatives, to share their insights on the evolving nature of curatorial work.
Sven, based in Johannesburg, is a writer, editor, and curator with a BA Fine Art and an MA in Contemporary Curatorial Practices. Currently, he serves as the curator of NIROX Sculpture Park and the Villa-Legodi Centre for Sculpture.
Jana, located in Cape Town, has curated extensively across galleries and independently, showcasing her expertise in exhibitions for platforms like FNB Art Joburg, Investec Cape Town Art Fair, 1-54 London, and Art Rotterdam. She now holds the role of curator and director at Southern Guild Gallery.
In this episode, Sven emphasizes the significance of shared thinking and scholarship, influencing curatorial practices rooted in care. He advocates for a deliberate approach to knowledge production and circulation. Jana explores the importance of aligning gallery and artist goals through interpersonal skills and relationship-building. We delve into curatorship, dissecting power dynamics and historical contexts within the local art scene.
Season 4 is made possible by the generous support of the PESP funding by National Arts Council and Department of Sport, Arts and Culture. 

Subscribe, review, like and follow @unframedpodcast 

Production for Season 4:
Anthea Pokroy (Project Lead & Host)
Nkgopoleng Moloi (Co-Host)
Niamh Walsh-Vorster (Project Manager)
The Audio Room & This Audio is Visual (Sound Engineers)
Alyx Carolus (Social Media)
Sanele Balintaba (Design)]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S04 E02: ‘The Artist Studio’ with Penny Siopis and Nolan Oswald Dennis</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this episode, we delve into the inner workings of the Artist’s Studio, exploring it as both a physical space and a conceptual framework. Joining us are artists Penny Siopis and Nolan Oswald Dennis, each offering unique insights into their artistic practices.<br />
Penny, based in Cape Town, has been a pivotal figure in the South African art scene since the 1980s. Her diverse body of work, spanning painting, film, photography, and installation, delves into themes of identity and memory through what she terms the 'poetics of vulnerability.'<br />
Nolan, based from Johannesburg, is dedicated to exploring a 'black consciousness of space' in his para-disciplinary practice. With participation in renowned events like the Berlin and Lagos Biennales, he interrogates hidden structural conditions through diagrams, models, and installations.<br />
In this episode, Penny emphasizes the importance of embracing chaos in the studio as a catalyst for creativity, while Nolan reflects on the transformative impact of his return from the US, highlighting the role of community, cultural encounters, and rituals.<br />
Season 4 is made possible by the generous support of the PESP funding by National Arts Council and Department of Sport, Arts and Culture. <br />
 <br />
Subscribe, review, like and follow @unframedpodcast <br />
<br />
Production for Season 4:<br />
Anthea Pokroy (Project Lead & Host)<br />
Nkgopoleng Moloi (Co-Host)<br />
Niamh Walsh-Vorster (Project Manager)<br />
The Audio Room & This Audio is Visual (Sound Engineers)<br />
Alyx Carolus (Social Media)<br />
Sanele Balintaba (Design) <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2024 17:07:00 +0200</pubDate>
				<podcast:season>0</podcast:season>
		<podcast:episode>0</podcast:episode>
						<itunes:title>S04 E02: ‘The Artist Studio’ with Penny Siopis and Nolan Oswald Dennis</itunes:title>
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		<itunes:episode>0</itunes:episode>
		<itunes:author>Anthea Pokroy</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, we delve into the inner workings of the Artist’s Studio, exploring it as both a physical space and a conceptual framework. Joining us are artists Penny Siopis and Nolan Oswald Dennis, each offering unique insights into their artistic practices.
Penny, based in Cape Town, has been a pivotal figure in the South African art scene since the 1980s. Her diverse body of work, spanning painting, film, photography, and installation, delves into themes of identity and memory through what she terms the 'poetics of vulnerability.'
Nolan, based from Johannesburg, is dedicated to exploring a 'black consciousness of space' in his para-disciplinary practice. With participation in renowned events like the Berlin and Lagos Biennales, he interrogates hidden structural conditions through diagrams, models, and installations.
In this episode, Penny emphasizes the importance of embracing chaos in the studio as a catalyst for creativity, while Nolan reflects on the transformative impact of his return from the US, highlighting the role of community, cultural encounters, and rituals.
Season 4 is made possible by the generous support of the PESP funding by National Arts Council and Department of Sport, Arts and Culture. 
 
Subscribe, review, like and follow @unframedpodcast 

Production for Season 4:
Anthea Pokroy (Project Lead & Host)
Nkgopoleng Moloi (Co-Host)
Niamh Walsh-Vorster (Project Manager)
The Audio Room & This Audio is Visual (Sound Engineers)
Alyx Carolus (Social Media)
Sanele Balintaba (Design)]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S04 E01: ‘The Art World’ with Anthea Pokroy and Nkgopoleng Moloi</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[After a long hiatus, Unframed is back with Season 4 and host, Anthea Pokroy is joined by arts writer Nkgopoleng Moloi to co-host this season. Discover the intricate layers of the South African contemporary art scene, as they navigate through the diverse facets of the art ecosystem, from the artist studio to the gallery, the curator to the museum. Through considered conversations with established artists and industry experts, each episode delves deep into the complexities that shape the cultural narratives of South African art. In this introductory episode, Anthea and Nkgopoleng explore the fundamental question: What is the art world? Reflecting on personal journeys, critical perspectives, and the evolving landscape of contemporary art, they challenge conventional definitions and invite listeners to join them on a journey of exploration and inquiry. <br />
<br />
Season 4 is made possible by the generous support of the PESP funding by National Arts Council and Department of Sport, Arts and Culture. <br />
<br />
Subscribe, review, like and follow @unframedpodcast <br />
<br />
Production for Season 4:<br />
Anthea Pokroy (Project Lead & Host)<br />
Nkgopoleng Moloi (Co-Host)<br />
Niamh Walsh-Vorster (Project Manager)<br />
The Audio Room & This Audio is Visual (Sound Engineers)<br />
Alyx Carolus (Social Media)<br />
Sanele Balintaba (Design) <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Thu, 29 Feb 2024 08:00:00 +0200</pubDate>
				<podcast:season>0</podcast:season>
		<podcast:episode>0</podcast:episode>
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		<itunes:episode>0</itunes:episode>
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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[After a long hiatus, Unframed is back with Season 4 and host, Anthea Pokroy is joined by arts writer Nkgopoleng Moloi to co-host this season. Discover the intricate layers of the South African contemporary art scene, as they navigate through the diverse facets of the art ecosystem, from the artist studio to the gallery, the curator to the museum. Through considered conversations with established artists and industry experts, each episode delves deep into the complexities that shape the cultural narratives of South African art. In this introductory episode, Anthea and Nkgopoleng explore the fundamental question: What is the art world? Reflecting on personal journeys, critical perspectives, and the evolving landscape of contemporary art, they challenge conventional definitions and invite listeners to join them on a journey of exploration and inquiry. 

Season 4 is made possible by the generous support of the PESP funding by National Arts Council and Department of Sport, Arts and Culture. 

Subscribe, review, like and follow @unframedpodcast 

Production for Season 4:
Anthea Pokroy (Project Lead & Host)
Nkgopoleng Moloi (Co-Host)
Niamh Walsh-Vorster (Project Manager)
The Audio Room & This Audio is Visual (Sound Engineers)
Alyx Carolus (Social Media)
Sanele Balintaba (Design)]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S03 E13 / Interview: 'Latitudes Online' with Lucy MacGarry</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this episode, I chat with Lucy MacGarry - independent curator, arts advisor and Co-Director of Latitudes Online: a new online marketplace for contemporary art from Africa. In September 2019, MacGarry launched Latitudes Art Fair at Sandton City with partners Roberta Coci, Makgati Molebatsi, Nokwazi Zimu and Anthea Buys. Prior to this she has held positions as - the Curator of the South African Pavilion at the Venice Biennale; Curator of the FNB Joburg Art Fair; Curator of the Spier, Nando's and Hollard Collections and Gallery Director of David Krut Projects. She holds a Masters from Wits and an Honours from UCT's Commerce Dept. <br />
<br />
Latitudes Online launched on 15 July 2020. Go check it out on latitudesartfair.com<br />
<br />
Enjoy my conversation with Lucy MacGarry. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2020 08:54:00 +0200</pubDate>
				<podcast:season>0</podcast:season>
		<podcast:episode>0</podcast:episode>
						<itunes:title>S03 E13 / Interview: 'Latitudes Online' with Lucy MacGarry</itunes:title>
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		<itunes:duration>44:01</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, I chat with Lucy MacGarry - independent curator, arts advisor and Co-Director of Latitudes Online: a new online marketplace for contemporary art from Africa. In September 2019, MacGarry launched Latitudes Art Fair at Sandton City with partners Roberta Coci, Makgati Molebatsi, Nokwazi Zimu and Anthea Buys. Prior to this she has held positions as - the Curator of the South African Pavilion at the Venice Biennale; Curator of the FNB Joburg Art Fair; Curator of the Spier, Nando's and Hollard Collections and Gallery Director of David Krut Projects. She holds a Masters from Wits and an Honours from UCT's Commerce Dept. 

Latitudes Online launched on 15 July 2020. Go check it out on latitudesartfair.com

Enjoy my conversation with Lucy MacGarry.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S03 E12 / Interview: 'Digital Arts &amp; Mixed Reality' with Brooklyn J. Pakathi</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this episode, I chat with new media artist and independent curator Brooklyn J. Pakathi. Brooklyn J explores the relationships we manifest with technologies, and through his practice, examines the formations of, enactments with and responses to those manifestations. Working within the fields of mixed realities at Johannesburg's TMRW, his practice merges into the collaborative nature of contemporary art-making centred around the use and inclusion of digital tools. TMRW is a gallery space currently in Keyes Art Mile in Johannesburg and also, as The Mixed Reality Workshop, is a multidisciplinary arts and technology space that engages with the creation, development, production and dissemination of mixed reality art experience. TMRW currently has two virtual exhibitions on, which have emerged as a necessity during this COVID19 pandemic and national lockdown. <br />
<br />
View the exhibitions here: <br />
Refiguring Space: https://nationalartsfestival.co.za/show/refiguring-space-exhibition/<br />
Coexistence: https://tmrw.art/coexistence <br />
<br />
Enjoy listening to my conversation with Brooklyn J. Pakathi and follow @brook_flowers on all social platforms. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2020 20:11:00 +0200</pubDate>
				<podcast:season>0</podcast:season>
		<podcast:episode>0</podcast:episode>
						<itunes:title>S03 E12 / Interview: 'Digital Arts &amp; Mixed Reality' with Brooklyn J. Pakathi</itunes:title>
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		<itunes:duration>56:06</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, I chat with new media artist and independent curator Brooklyn J. Pakathi. Brooklyn J explores the relationships we manifest with technologies, and through his practice, examines the formations of, enactments with and responses to those manifestations. Working within the fields of mixed realities at Johannesburg's TMRW, his practice merges into the collaborative nature of contemporary art-making centred around the use and inclusion of digital tools. TMRW is a gallery space currently in Keyes Art Mile in Johannesburg and also, as The Mixed Reality Workshop, is a multidisciplinary arts and technology space that engages with the creation, development, production and dissemination of mixed reality art experience. TMRW currently has two virtual exhibitions on, which have emerged as a necessity during this COVID19 pandemic and national lockdown. 

View the exhibitions here: 
Refiguring Space: https://nationalartsfestival.co.za/show/refiguring-space-exhibition/
Coexistence: https://tmrw.art/coexistence 

Enjoy listening to my conversation with Brooklyn J. Pakathi and follow @brook_flowers on all social platforms.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S03 E11 / Talk: 'Surviving Creatively' with VANSA Covid-19 Perspectives</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this episode, we listen to an online panel discussion hosted by VANSA, the Visual Arts Network of South Africa. <br />
<br />
At the beginning of June, VANSA hosted an online dialogue with arts practitioners whose practices span various disciplines. They shared their thoughts and experiences of this moment, their reflections on navigating precarity, how they are surviving creatively, and what new or different possibilities exist for us as a visual arts sector.<br />
<br />
The panel was hosted by VANSA director Refilwe Nkomo @flokomo, with panelists:<br />
Naadira Patel (Artist | Researcher | Designer | Project Manager | Sessional Lecturer) @studiostudioworkwork<br />
Mika Conradie (Curator | Researcher | Project Manager) @soft_wave<br />
Masimba Sasa (Photographer | Filmmaker | Lecturer | Trainer) @masimbasasa<br />
Thato Mogotsi (Curator | Scholar | Lecturer | Trainer) @mogotsi.thato <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2020 11:05:00 +0200</pubDate>
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		<podcast:episode>0</podcast:episode>
						<itunes:title>S03 E11 / Talk: 'Surviving Creatively' with VANSA Covid-19 Perspectives</itunes:title>
		<itunes:season>0</itunes:season>
		<itunes:episode>0</itunes:episode>
		<itunes:author>Anthea Pokroy</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>1:28:29</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, we listen to an online panel discussion hosted by VANSA, the Visual Arts Network of South Africa. 

At the beginning of June, VANSA hosted an online dialogue with arts practitioners whose practices span various disciplines. They shared their thoughts and experiences of this moment, their reflections on navigating precarity, how they are surviving creatively, and what new or different possibilities exist for us as a visual arts sector.

The panel was hosted by VANSA director Refilwe Nkomo @flokomo, with panelists:
Naadira Patel (Artist | Researcher | Designer | Project Manager | Sessional Lecturer) @studiostudioworkwork
Mika Conradie (Curator | Researcher | Project Manager) @soft_wave
Masimba Sasa (Photographer | Filmmaker | Lecturer | Trainer) @masimbasasa
Thato Mogotsi (Curator | Scholar | Lecturer | Trainer) @mogotsi.thato]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S03 E10 / Interview: 'Artists in Isolation' with Banele Khoza</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this episode, I chat with Banele Khoza about his artistic and curatorial practice. This is the final episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID-19 pandemic. As we, in South Africa enter Level 3 of lockdown, we end this series but will continue producing content that keeps the art community connected and inspired.<br />
<br />
Banele Khoza (*1994) is a Swaziland-born and South African-based visual artist. He firstly enrolled at the London International School of Fashion in Johannesburg, but soon realized his passion was drawing. Khoza holds a BTechin Fine Arts from Tshwane University of Technology, Pretoria. In 2017 he won the prestigious Gerard Sekoto Award and with it a three-month residency at the CitéInternationale des Arts in Paris.<br />
<br />
His solo exhibitions include Temporary Feelings at the Pretoria Art Museum (2016); Lonely Nights at Lizamore Gallery(2017) LOVE? at Smith Studio in Cape Town (2018). Khoza also headlined the solo exhibition titled LGBTQI+: Banele Khoza as part of the Curatorial Lab at Zeitz MOCAA (2018). In 2018 he curated A Letter to my 22 Year Old Self, a group show presented to launch his fundraising activities which will give grants to art students dealing with economic hardship at SA universities. In 2019 Khoza opened `'Seeking Love`' a museum touring show around South Africa and has been awarded the M&G 200 Young South Africans. Khoza is the co-curator with Nicole Siegenthaler of Art Joburg: Gallery Lab.<br />
<br />
Enjoy listening to my conversation with Banele Khoza. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2020 13:14:00 +0200</pubDate>
				<podcast:season>0</podcast:season>
		<podcast:episode>0</podcast:episode>
						<itunes:title>S03 E10 / Interview: 'Artists in Isolation' with Banele Khoza</itunes:title>
		<itunes:season>0</itunes:season>
		<itunes:episode>0</itunes:episode>
		<itunes:author>Anthea Pokroy</itunes:author>
					<itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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		<itunes:duration>59:33</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, I chat with Banele Khoza about his artistic and curatorial practice. This is the final episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID-19 pandemic. As we, in South Africa enter Level 3 of lockdown, we end this series but will continue producing content that keeps the art community connected and inspired.

Banele Khoza (*1994) is a Swaziland-born and South African-based visual artist. He firstly enrolled at the London International School of Fashion in Johannesburg, but soon realized his passion was drawing. Khoza holds a BTechin Fine Arts from Tshwane University of Technology, Pretoria. In 2017 he won the prestigious Gerard Sekoto Award and with it a three-month residency at the CitéInternationale des Arts in Paris.

His solo exhibitions include Temporary Feelings at the Pretoria Art Museum (2016); Lonely Nights at Lizamore Gallery(2017) LOVE? at Smith Studio in Cape Town (2018). Khoza also headlined the solo exhibition titled LGBTQI+: Banele Khoza as part of the Curatorial Lab at Zeitz MOCAA (2018). In 2018 he curated A Letter to my 22 Year Old Self, a group show presented to launch his fundraising activities which will give grants to art students dealing with economic hardship at SA universities. In 2019 Khoza opened `'Seeking Love`' a museum touring show around South Africa and has been awarded the M&G 200 Young South Africans. Khoza is the co-curator with Nicole Siegenthaler of Art Joburg: Gallery Lab.

Enjoy listening to my conversation with Banele Khoza.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S03 E09 / Interview: 'Artists in Isolation' with Carly Whitaker</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this episode, I chat with Carly Whitaker about her artistic, curatorial and research practice. This is the 6th episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID-19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. <br />
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Carly Whitaker is an artist, curator, researcher and lecturer based in Johannesburg, South Africa. She holds a BA Fine Arts and a MA in Digital Interactive. <br />
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She has participated in numerous exhibitions at art spaces in Johannesburg, Freiburg, Casablanca, Miami and Sao Paulo. Her curatorial projects include Floating Reverie, an online digital residency programme, which has been running for over five years and Blue Ocean an online digital project space. She is interested in the positioning of this as artistic research and investigating how artists can develop a practice online. Through her own practice she engages in a constant exploration of how we communicate through media and the ways we use technology to create dialogues, form connections between ourselves and the digital space.<br />
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Carly is currently extending her practice and research into new areas with her PhD at the University of Reading (UK) with a focus on curating and networked methodologies in South Africa.<br />
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Enjoy listening to my conversation with Carly Whitaker. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2020 12:56:00 +0200</pubDate>
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						<itunes:title>S03 E09 / Interview: 'Artists in Isolation' with Carly Whitaker</itunes:title>
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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, I chat with Carly Whitaker about her artistic, curatorial and research practice. This is the 6th episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID-19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. 

Carly Whitaker is an artist, curator, researcher and lecturer based in Johannesburg, South Africa. She holds a BA Fine Arts and a MA in Digital Interactive. 

 
She has participated in numerous exhibitions at art spaces in Johannesburg, Freiburg, Casablanca, Miami and Sao Paulo. Her curatorial projects include Floating Reverie, an online digital residency programme, which has been running for over five years and Blue Ocean an online digital project space. She is interested in the positioning of this as artistic research and investigating how artists can develop a practice online. Through her own practice she engages in a constant exploration of how we communicate through media and the ways we use technology to create dialogues, form connections between ourselves and the digital space.

 
Carly is currently extending her practice and research into new areas with her PhD at the University of Reading (UK) with a focus on curating and networked methodologies in South Africa.
 
Enjoy listening to my conversation with Carly Whitaker.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S03 E08 / Interview: 'Artists in Isolation' with Phumulani Ntuli</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this episode, I chat with Phumulani Ntuli about his artistic practice. This is the 5th episode in a series on Unframed called “Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID-19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. <br />
<br />
Ntuli is a Johannesburg-based artist who holds BTech in Visual Arts from the University of Johannesburg. In 2017, he completed a Master in Fine Art – in the Public Sphere in Switzerland. Ntuli’s work merges the ambit of artistic research, sculpture, video installations and performative practices, concerning the tensions between documentary and the archive, and fiction and imagined narratives. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2020 15:01:00 +0200</pubDate>
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						<itunes:title>S03 E08 / Interview: 'Artists in Isolation' with Phumulani Ntuli</itunes:title>
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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, I chat with Phumulani Ntuli about his artistic practice. This is the 5th episode in a series on Unframed called “Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID-19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. 

Ntuli is a Johannesburg-based artist who holds BTech in Visual Arts from the University of Johannesburg. In 2017, he completed a Master in Fine Art – in the Public Sphere in Switzerland. Ntuli’s work merges the ambit of artistic research, sculpture, video installations and performative practices, concerning the tensions between documentary and the archive, and fiction and imagined narratives.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S03 E07 / Interview: 'Artists in Isolation' with Sandile Radebe</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this episode, I chat with Sandile Radebe about his artistic practice. This is the 4th episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. <br />
<br />
Sandile is a Johannesburg-based artist whose main area of interest is art practice in both public and private spaces. He explores these spaces through simulating a new reading of graffiti and, more broadly, the way language works to help construct our realities. Sandile visualised graffiti in abstract sculptural forms and creates installations with these forms to create labyrinthine structures akin to walking in the city. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2020 10:43:00 +0200</pubDate>
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						<itunes:title>S03 E07 / Interview: 'Artists in Isolation' with Sandile Radebe</itunes:title>
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		<itunes:author>Anthea Pokroy</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, I chat with Sandile Radebe about his artistic practice. This is the 4th episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. 

Sandile is a Johannesburg-based artist whose main area of interest is art practice in both public and private spaces. He explores these spaces through simulating a new reading of graffiti and, more broadly, the way language works to help construct our realities. Sandile visualised graffiti in abstract sculptural forms and creates installations with these forms to create labyrinthine structures akin to walking in the city.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S03 E06 / Interview: 'Artists in Isolation' with Mmabatho Grace Mokalapa</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this episode, I chat with Mmbatho Grace Mokalapa about her artistic practice. This is the third episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. <br />
<br />
Mmbatho Grace Mokalapa, born in Soweto in 1992, is a Johannesburg-based visual artist. She obtained a BA Fine arts degree in 2015 from the University of the Witwatersrand. After graduating, she became a recipient of a studio bursary at Assemblage Studios, funded by the African Arts Trust. Since that time she has been practicing as a full-time artist, and currently has a studio at August House in Johannesburg. Working in drawing, painting, sculpture, sound and video, her art practice is focussed on the subjective sublime experience of physical space, spacial voids, and how we engage with the idea of empty or other worldly spaces.<br />
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Enjoy listening to my coversation with Grace. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2020 15:06:00 +0200</pubDate>
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						<itunes:title>S03 E06 / Interview: 'Artists in Isolation' with Mmabatho Grace Mokalapa</itunes:title>
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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, I chat with Mmbatho Grace Mokalapa about her artistic practice. This is the third episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. 

Mmbatho Grace Mokalapa, born in Soweto in 1992, is a Johannesburg-based visual artist. She obtained a BA Fine arts degree in 2015 from the University of the Witwatersrand. After graduating, she became a recipient of a studio bursary at Assemblage Studios, funded by the African Arts Trust. Since that time she has been practicing as a full-time artist, and currently has a studio at August House in Johannesburg. Working in drawing, painting, sculpture, sound and video, her art practice is focussed on the subjective sublime experience of physical space, spacial voids, and how we engage with the idea of empty or other worldly spaces.

Enjoy listening to my coversation with Grace.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S03 E05 / Interview: 'Artists in Isolation' with Chloë Reid</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the second episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID-19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. On today’s show, I chat with Chloë Reid about her artistic and curatorial practice.<br />
<br />
Chloë Reid is an artist from Johannesburg. She is interested in everyday sociology and the relationship between reading, writing and artistic practice. She holds degrees from the Michaelis School of Fine Art and the Glasgow School of Art and was awarded a year-long fellowship at the Glasgow Sculpture Studios in 2018. She has exhibited and curated locally and internationally and produced two collections of very short fiction. In 2019 she established gallery, gallery with the aim of developing an embodied framework for artists, writers and curators that foregrounds collaboration and exchange. She is currently pursuing an MA in Creative Writing at Wits. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2020 16:28:00 +0200</pubDate>
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						<itunes:title>S03 E05 / Interview: 'Artists in Isolation' with Chloë Reid</itunes:title>
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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[This is the second episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID-19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. On today’s show, I chat with Chloë Reid about her artistic and curatorial practice.

Chloë Reid is an artist from Johannesburg. She is interested in everyday sociology and the relationship between reading, writing and artistic practice. She holds degrees from the Michaelis School of Fine Art and the Glasgow School of Art and was awarded a year-long fellowship at the Glasgow Sculpture Studios in 2018. She has exhibited and curated locally and internationally and produced two collections of very short fiction. In 2019 she established gallery, gallery with the aim of developing an embodied framework for artists, writers and curators that foregrounds collaboration and exchange. She is currently pursuing an MA in Creative Writing at Wits.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S03 E04 / Interview: 'Artists in Isolation' with Io Makandal</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the first episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID-19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. On today’s show, I chat with Io Makandal about her artistic practice.<br />
<br />
Io Makandal is an interdisciplinary artist based in Johannesburg. Working primary with drawing and installation, her practice is concerned with the processes of entropy, the binary between nature and artifice, living and dying, urban ecology and architecture and order and chaos. Makandal holds a BA Fine Art at Michaelis School of Fine Art, UCT in Cape Town (2010) and is currently a Masters candidate at Wits School of Art with Scholarship. Makandal has exhibited in group exhibitions both locally and internationally and has had two solo exhibitions in Johannesburg. Her work is a part of several private and corporate collections. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:56:00 +0200</pubDate>
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						<itunes:title>S03 E04 / Interview: 'Artists in Isolation' with Io Makandal</itunes:title>
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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[This is the first episode in a series on Unframed called "Artists in Isolation” which profiles South African artists during the lockdown period of the COVID-19 pandemic. We are living through unprecedented times, where we are needing to find new ways of connecting with each other and the broader art industry, of being inspired, and of creating more platforms for artists. On today’s show, I chat with Io Makandal about her artistic practice.

Io Makandal is an interdisciplinary artist based in Johannesburg. Working primary with drawing and installation, her practice is concerned with the processes of entropy, the binary between nature and artifice, living and dying, urban ecology and architecture and order and chaos. Makandal holds a BA Fine Art at Michaelis School of Fine Art, UCT in Cape Town (2010) and is currently a Masters candidate at Wits School of Art with Scholarship. Makandal has exhibited in group exhibitions both locally and internationally and has had two solo exhibitions in Johannesburg. Her work is a part of several private and corporate collections.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S03 E03 / Talk: ‘Artists in Dialogue: Kemang Wa Lehulere &amp; François-Xavier Gbré’ at Cape Town Art Fair</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The discussion will explore how these artists conceive of their practice and engage the public.<br />
<br />
MODERATOR: Lorenzo Fusi (Director/Curator Yerevan Biennial 2020, London)<br />
<br />
PANELLISTS:<br />
Kemang wa Lehulere (Artist, Cape Town)<br />
François-Xavier Gbré (Artist, Abidjan) <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2020 12:06:00 +0200</pubDate>
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						<itunes:title>S03 E03 / Talk: ‘Artists in Dialogue: Kemang Wa Lehulere &amp; François-Xavier Gbré’ at Cape Town Art Fair</itunes:title>
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		<itunes:duration>1:08:00</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[The discussion will explore how these artists conceive of their practice and engage the public.

MODERATOR: Lorenzo Fusi (Director/Curator Yerevan Biennial 2020, London)

PANELLISTS:
Kemang wa Lehulere (Artist, Cape Town)
François-Xavier Gbré (Artist, Abidjan)]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S03 E02 / Talk: 'The Quest for Sustainable Art Platforms' at Cape Town Art Fair</title>
		<link>https://iono.fm/e/839217</link>
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		<description><![CDATA[The panel examines the current and possible future model of art platforms and institutional spaces as self-sustainable entities. Challenges around sustainability for art platforms are well theorized and yet remains a question that most non-commercial entities grapple with. Competing for the same shrinking pot of funds and maintaining the intellectual autonomy of the projects while juggling the needs of the funder is a real challenge. How do we keep our doors open while occupying the space and practitioners that the museums and commercial entities do not reach?<br />
<br />
MODERATOR: Nkule Mabaso (Curator, Michaelis School of Fine Art, Cape Town)<br />
<br />
PANELLISTS:<br />
Premesh Lalu (Factory of the Arts, UWC)<br />
Georgina Maxim (Village Unhu Collective, Harare)<br />
Angela Shaw (Director of KZNSA, Kwa-Zulu Natal)<br />
Kabelo Malatsi (Independent Curator, Johannesburg) <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:43:00 +0200</pubDate>
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						<itunes:title>S03 E02 / Talk: 'The Quest for Sustainable Art Platforms' at Cape Town Art Fair</itunes:title>
		<itunes:season>0</itunes:season>
		<itunes:episode>0</itunes:episode>
		<itunes:author>Anthea Pokroy</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>1:14:04</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[The panel examines the current and possible future model of art platforms and institutional spaces as self-sustainable entities. Challenges around sustainability for art platforms are well theorized and yet remains a question that most non-commercial entities grapple with. Competing for the same shrinking pot of funds and maintaining the intellectual autonomy of the projects while juggling the needs of the funder is a real challenge. How do we keep our doors open while occupying the space and practitioners that the museums and commercial entities do not reach?

MODERATOR: Nkule Mabaso (Curator, Michaelis School of Fine Art, Cape Town)

PANELLISTS:
Premesh Lalu (Factory of the Arts, UWC)
Georgina Maxim (Village Unhu Collective, Harare)
Angela Shaw (Director of KZNSA, Kwa-Zulu Natal)
Kabelo Malatsi (Independent Curator, Johannesburg)]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S03 E01 / Talk: ‘Museums in the 21st Century’ at Cape Town Art Fair</title>
		<link>https://iono.fm/e/835719</link>
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		<description><![CDATA[Traditionally art museums have functioned as a sanctuary, a place for meditation whilst also offering education. They have also been a cultural resource contributing to the economic engine that has strengthened local businesses through cultural tourism. In recent years, this model of museums as a shrine to history has been rethought particularly with an interest to dramatically increase audiences of every kind, whilst also recognizing the role technology plays in everyday lives. It is said that museums have gone from, “being about something to being for somebody”. Such a shift in perspective has raised many questions about what was and could be a museum in the 21stcentury. This panel will explore the various ways museums respond to pressures and challenges of the coming decade.<br />
<br />
MODERATOR: Tumelo Mosaka (Curator, New York)<br />
<br />
PANELLISTS<br />
Adriana Rispoili  (Independent Curator, Italy)<br />
Koyo Kouoh (Dir. Zeitz MOCAA, Cape Town)<br />
Sonia Lawson (Dir. Palais de Lomé, Lomé)<br />
Nana Oforiatta-Ayim (Founder and director of ANO Institute of Contemporary Arts, Accra)<br />
<br />
(text courtesy of Investec Cape Town Art Fair) <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2020 12:07:00 +0200</pubDate>
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		<podcast:episode>0</podcast:episode>
						<itunes:title>S03 E01 / Talk: ‘Museums in the 21st Century’ at Cape Town Art Fair</itunes:title>
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		<itunes:episode>0</itunes:episode>
		<itunes:author>Anthea Pokroy</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[Traditionally art museums have functioned as a sanctuary, a place for meditation whilst also offering education. They have also been a cultural resource contributing to the economic engine that has strengthened local businesses through cultural tourism. In recent years, this model of museums as a shrine to history has been rethought particularly with an interest to dramatically increase audiences of every kind, whilst also recognizing the role technology plays in everyday lives. It is said that museums have gone from, “being about something to being for somebody”. Such a shift in perspective has raised many questions about what was and could be a museum in the 21stcentury. This panel will explore the various ways museums respond to pressures and challenges of the coming decade.

MODERATOR: Tumelo Mosaka (Curator, New York)

PANELLISTS
Adriana Rispoili  (Independent Curator, Italy)
Koyo Kouoh (Dir. Zeitz MOCAA, Cape Town)
Sonia Lawson (Dir. Palais de Lomé, Lomé)
Nana Oforiatta-Ayim (Founder and director of ANO Institute of Contemporary Arts, Accra)

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		<title>S02 E09 / Interview: '9 Years of Assemblage' with Louise van der Bijl</title>
		<link>https://iono.fm/e/764061</link>
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		<description><![CDATA[Episode 19 is a very special and important one to me - with my friend and colleague Louise van Der Bijl. In 2010, Louise and I co-founded Assemblage, a non-profit artist-run organisation, which aimed to provide support, education and networks for emerging artists. After 9 years of hosting many workshops, peer mentoring sessions, exhibitions and studio spaces - all of which encouraged community, sharing, collaboration and professional practice for hundreds of artists - Assemblage has decided to close its metaphorical doors. In this episode, Louise and I reflect on how and why Assemblage started, our failures and successes, the ever-changing Johannesburg arts landscape and our ultimate decision to close the organization. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2019 09:54:00 +0200</pubDate>
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		<podcast:episode>0</podcast:episode>
						<itunes:title>S02 E09 / Interview: '9 Years of Assemblage' with Louise van der Bijl</itunes:title>
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		<itunes:episode>0</itunes:episode>
		<itunes:author>Anthea Pokroy</itunes:author>
					<itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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		<itunes:duration>58:33</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[Episode 19 is a very special and important one to me - with my friend and colleague Louise van Der Bijl. In 2010, Louise and I co-founded Assemblage, a non-profit artist-run organisation, which aimed to provide support, education and networks for emerging artists. After 9 years of hosting many workshops, peer mentoring sessions, exhibitions and studio spaces - all of which encouraged community, sharing, collaboration and professional practice for hundreds of artists - Assemblage has decided to close its metaphorical doors. In this episode, Louise and I reflect on how and why Assemblage started, our failures and successes, the ever-changing Johannesburg arts landscape and our ultimate decision to close the organization.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S02 E08 / Talk: 'On David Koloane' with Thembinkosi Goniwe &amp; Justin Davy</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This episode is another recorded talk from the art fair week in September of this year, 2019. It was recorded at Art Joburg and is a conversation about the great and influential David Koloane who passed away at the age of 81 in June this year. I was so happy to hear that this talk was happening at Art Joburg, as I was planning an episode remembering the life and work of David Koloane. Both speakers, art historian and curator Thembinkosi Goniwe and Goodman gallery curator Justin Davy, worked intimately with David in the last few months of his life, pulling together his prolific and profound body of work for a major retrospective exhibition. Fortunately, David was able to see the first incarnation of the exhibition at Iziko National Gallery in Cape Town in June this year but sadly would not live to see its second incarnation at the Standard Bank Gallery in Johannesburg which opened just last week and runs until 6 December.<br />
<br />
Thank you to Art Joburg for allowing me to record this talk and to publish it on Unframed, and to Thembinkosi and Justin for an insightful and poignant tribute to David Koloane. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2019 23:03:00 +0200</pubDate>
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		<podcast:episode>0</podcast:episode>
						<itunes:title>S02 E08 / Talk: 'On David Koloane' with Thembinkosi Goniwe &amp; Justin Davy</itunes:title>
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		<itunes:episode>0</itunes:episode>
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		<itunes:duration>55:33</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[This episode is another recorded talk from the art fair week in September of this year, 2019. It was recorded at Art Joburg and is a conversation about the great and influential David Koloane who passed away at the age of 81 in June this year. I was so happy to hear that this talk was happening at Art Joburg, as I was planning an episode remembering the life and work of David Koloane. Both speakers, art historian and curator Thembinkosi Goniwe and Goodman gallery curator Justin Davy, worked intimately with David in the last few months of his life, pulling together his prolific and profound body of work for a major retrospective exhibition. Fortunately, David was able to see the first incarnation of the exhibition at Iziko National Gallery in Cape Town in June this year but sadly would not live to see its second incarnation at the Standard Bank Gallery in Johannesburg which opened just last week and runs until 6 December.

Thank you to Art Joburg for allowing me to record this talk and to publish it on Unframed, and to Thembinkosi and Justin for an insightful and poignant tribute to David Koloane.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S02 E07 / Talk: 'How to change the art world in 2 hours' at Latitudes Art Fair 2019</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This episode is a talk that I recorded as part of Latitudes Art Fair last month, September 2019. It is an informal panel discussion, which was hosted by the brilliant Michelle Constant, is entitled “How to change the art world in 2 hours”. Thirteen artists, curators, gallerists, critics and arts advocates were invited to respond to this provocation. Each speaker had 5 minutes to champion their utopian wishes or practical solutions to make the art world a more supportive, equal and engaged space.<br />
<br />
Thank you to Latitudes Art Fair for allowing me to record this talk and to publish it on the Unframed platform. Enjoy listening to this wonderfully interesting and collaborative presentation.<br />
<br />
This is the list of speakers in order and where to find them:<br />
<br />
Hosted by Michelle Constant @michelleconstant_<br />
<br />
Sean O’Toole - Journalist, art critic and editor @seanwotoole<br />
Mike Mavura - Stellenbosch Triennale / Stellenbosch Academy of Design and Photography @tigere_mavura @stellenboschtriennale<br />
Valerie Kabov - Director at First Floor Gallery Harare, Editor at large Art Africa Magazine @firstfloorgalleryharare<br />
Sibongile Metsing - South African Mint @southafricanmint<br />
Roelof van Wyk - Artist, Director of the Social Impact Arts Prize @afrikanae @socialimpactartsprizeza<br />
Tamzin Lovell - Artfundi Art Management Software Founder and Director @tamzinlovellmiller<br />
Pitika Ntuli - Sculptor, poet, writer and academic @pitika_ntuli<br />
Daudi Karungi - Artist, curator, owner of Afriart Gallery @afriartgallery @daudikarungi<br />
Kefiloe Siwisa - Curator @womlambo<br />
Zen Marie - Artist and academic @znmarie<br />
Michael Memeo - Director at Gallery TINY Harlem @gallerytinyharlem<br />
Stephen Hobbs - Artist, Co-director at The Trinity Session @hobbsstep @thetrinitysession<br />
Mbali Tshabalala - Artist, Curator @mbali_tshabalala_ <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2019 12:55:00 +0200</pubDate>
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		<podcast:episode>0</podcast:episode>
						<itunes:title>S02 E07 / Talk: 'How to change the art world in 2 hours' at Latitudes Art Fair 2019</itunes:title>
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		<itunes:episode>0</itunes:episode>
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		<itunes:duration>1:55:33</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[This episode is a talk that I recorded as part of Latitudes Art Fair last month, September 2019. It is an informal panel discussion, which was hosted by the brilliant Michelle Constant, is entitled “How to change the art world in 2 hours”. Thirteen artists, curators, gallerists, critics and arts advocates were invited to respond to this provocation. Each speaker had 5 minutes to champion their utopian wishes or practical solutions to make the art world a more supportive, equal and engaged space.

Thank you to Latitudes Art Fair for allowing me to record this talk and to publish it on the Unframed platform. Enjoy listening to this wonderfully interesting and collaborative presentation.

This is the list of speakers in order and where to find them:

Hosted by Michelle Constant @michelleconstant_

Sean O’Toole - Journalist, art critic and editor @seanwotoole
Mike Mavura - Stellenbosch Triennale / Stellenbosch Academy of Design and Photography @tigere_mavura @stellenboschtriennale
Valerie Kabov - Director at First Floor Gallery Harare, Editor at large Art Africa Magazine @firstfloorgalleryharare
Sibongile Metsing - South African Mint @southafricanmint
Roelof van Wyk - Artist, Director of the Social Impact Arts Prize @afrikanae @socialimpactartsprizeza
Tamzin Lovell - Artfundi Art Management Software Founder and Director @tamzinlovellmiller
Pitika Ntuli - Sculptor, poet, writer and academic @pitika_ntuli
Daudi Karungi - Artist, curator, owner of Afriart Gallery @afriartgallery @daudikarungi
Kefiloe Siwisa - Curator @womlambo
Zen Marie - Artist and academic @znmarie
Michael Memeo - Director at Gallery TINY Harlem @gallerytinyharlem
Stephen Hobbs - Artist, Co-director at The Trinity Session @hobbsstep @thetrinitysession
Mbali Tshabalala - Artist, Curator @mbali_tshabalala_]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S02 E06 / Talk: Sam Nhlengethwa &amp; William Kentridge at Wits Art Museum</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This episode is a talk that I recorded at the Wits Art Museum in July 2019, between two prolific South African artists, Sam Nhlengethwa and William Kentridge, over the time that Sam’s print retrospective was displayed at WAM. <br />
<br />
This talk continues from a previous conversation between the two last year at the Centre for the Less Good Idea. Both artists were born in 1955, a fact on which the talk was premised, and engaged how their lives and careers have grown in parallel, sometimes converging, over the decades. The conversation is moderated by the wonderful Neil Dundas, a curator at the Goodman Gallery who has worked with both men for many decades. <br />
<br />
The focus of this conversation is largely on how music has been so influential to both their art practices and they have compiled a playlist which they refer to during the talk. Those music pieces haven’t always translated well in the recording so I have included the playlist below so you can listen to each song with more appreciation.<br />
<br />
On iTunes: https://music.apple.com/za/playlist/sam-william-at-wam-2019/pl.u-38oWXm4sZlZbaL<br />
On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0M9hFoHYaXkfXPEtdDjOSB<br />
<br />
Enjoy listening to this engaging conversation with Sam Nhlengethwa and William Kentridge.<br />
<br />
Thank you to Wits Art Museum for allowing me to record this talk and publish it on Unframed. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:17:00 +0200</pubDate>
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		<podcast:episode>0</podcast:episode>
						<itunes:title>S02 E06 / Talk: Sam Nhlengethwa &amp; William Kentridge at Wits Art Museum</itunes:title>
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		<itunes:duration>1:13:26</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[This episode is a talk that I recorded at the Wits Art Museum in July 2019, between two prolific South African artists, Sam Nhlengethwa and William Kentridge, over the time that Sam’s print retrospective was displayed at WAM. 

This talk continues from a previous conversation between the two last year at the Centre for the Less Good Idea. Both artists were born in 1955, a fact on which the talk was premised, and engaged how their lives and careers have grown in parallel, sometimes converging, over the decades. The conversation is moderated by the wonderful Neil Dundas, a curator at the Goodman Gallery who has worked with both men for many decades. 

The focus of this conversation is largely on how music has been so influential to both their art practices and they have compiled a playlist which they refer to during the talk. Those music pieces haven’t always translated well in the recording so I have included the playlist below so you can listen to each song with more appreciation.

On iTunes: https://music.apple.com/za/playlist/sam-william-at-wam-2019/pl.u-38oWXm4sZlZbaL
On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0M9hFoHYaXkfXPEtdDjOSB

Enjoy listening to this engaging conversation with Sam Nhlengethwa and William Kentridge.

Thank you to Wits Art Museum for allowing me to record this talk and publish it on Unframed.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S02 E05 / Interview: 'The Artist Interview' with Joost Bosland</title>
		<link>https://iono.fm/e/748704</link>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this episode, I interview one of the directors of Stevenson Gallery, Joost Bosland. We speak about the role of art criticism internationally and in South Africa, primarily focussed on his research about the 'artist interview' as a form or genre in art criticism. Can the artist interview offer a more empathetic value to art criticism?<br />
We also chat more generally about the South African art scene and explore how contemporary art is defined.<br />
<br />
Joost is an avid listener of podcasts and these are his favourites at the moment:<br />
Collect Wisely: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/collect-wisely/id1378595357<br />
In Other Words: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/in-other-words/id1203133627<br />
<br />
Stevenson website: www.stevenson.info <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2019 09:42:00 +0200</pubDate>
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		<podcast:episode>0</podcast:episode>
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		<itunes:episode>0</itunes:episode>
		<itunes:author>Anthea Pokroy</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>40:33</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, I interview one of the directors of Stevenson Gallery, Joost Bosland. We speak about the role of art criticism internationally and in South Africa, primarily focussed on his research about the 'artist interview' as a form or genre in art criticism. Can the artist interview offer a more empathetic value to art criticism?
We also chat more generally about the South African art scene and explore how contemporary art is defined.

Joost is an avid listener of podcasts and these are his favourites at the moment:
Collect Wisely: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/collect-wisely/id1378595357
In Other Words: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/in-other-words/id1203133627

Stevenson website: www.stevenson.info]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S02 E04 / Talk: 'Collectives &amp; Sustainability' at Turbine Art Fair 2019</title>
		<link>https://iono.fm/e/747201</link>
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		<description><![CDATA[This episode is the third of 4 talks recorded at Turbine Art Fair 2019.<br />
<br />
Title: "Concerning Us: On collective sustainability"<br />
<br />
Panel discussion with Blaque INQ Contemporaries (Kamogelo Masemola), Danger Gevaar Ingozi Studio (Chad Codeiro), Free State Collective (Karen Brusch), moderated by Aysha Waja (curator)<br />
<br />
This panel will explore how artist collectives can be sustained and developed, against a trend of their rapid dissolution.  What is the value of collaboration and can collectives withstand the fast-pace changes of the industry while maintaining their identities and ethos? (source: TAF website)<br />
<br />
The talks programme was curated by Kefiloe Sawisa and Nomvoyu Horwitz. Thanks to them and Turbine Art Fair for allowing us to record and host this panel discussion on Unframed. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2019 20:55:00 +0200</pubDate>
				<podcast:season>0</podcast:season>
		<podcast:episode>0</podcast:episode>
						<itunes:title>S02 E04 / Talk: 'Collectives &amp; Sustainability' at Turbine Art Fair 2019</itunes:title>
		<itunes:season>0</itunes:season>
		<itunes:episode>0</itunes:episode>
		<itunes:author>Anthea Pokroy</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>1:06:36</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[This episode is the third of 4 talks recorded at Turbine Art Fair 2019.

Title: "Concerning Us: On collective sustainability"

Panel discussion with Blaque INQ Contemporaries (Kamogelo Masemola), Danger Gevaar Ingozi Studio (Chad Codeiro), Free State Collective (Karen Brusch), moderated by Aysha Waja (curator)

This panel will explore how artist collectives can be sustained and developed, against a trend of their rapid dissolution.  What is the value of collaboration and can collectives withstand the fast-pace changes of the industry while maintaining their identities and ethos? (source: TAF website)

The talks programme was curated by Kefiloe Sawisa and Nomvoyu Horwitz. Thanks to them and Turbine Art Fair for allowing us to record and host this panel discussion on Unframed.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S02 E03 / Talk: 'Queering Representation' at Turbine Art Fair 2019</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This episode is the second of 4 talks recorded at Turbine Art Fair 2019. <br />
<br />
Title: "There are No Lines Here: Queering visibility and representation"<br />
<br />
Panel discussion with Jody Brand (artist), Evaan Ferreira (artist), Umlilo (musician), moderated by Keval Harie (Director: Gay and Lesbian Archive GALA)<br />
<br />
The panelists in this discussion are all practising artists whose works' deal with the froughtness of identification and (self)representation. Using mythological fantasies, the virtual and the speculative, these artists are shaping aesthetic forms and narratives that challenge binary identity politics. (source: TAF website)<br />
<br />
The talks programme was curated by Kefiloe Siwisa and Nomvoyu Horwitz. Thanks to them and Turbine Art Fair for allowing us to record and host this panel discussion on Unframed. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Tue, 10 Sep 2019 18:31:00 +0200</pubDate>
				<podcast:season>0</podcast:season>
		<podcast:episode>0</podcast:episode>
						<itunes:title>S02 E03 / Talk: 'Queering Representation' at Turbine Art Fair 2019</itunes:title>
		<itunes:season>0</itunes:season>
		<itunes:episode>0</itunes:episode>
		<itunes:author>Anthea Pokroy</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>56:20</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[This episode is the second of 4 talks recorded at Turbine Art Fair 2019. 

Title: "There are No Lines Here: Queering visibility and representation"

Panel discussion with Jody Brand (artist), Evaan Ferreira (artist), Umlilo (musician), moderated by Keval Harie (Director: Gay and Lesbian Archive GALA)

The panelists in this discussion are all practising artists whose works' deal with the froughtness of identification and (self)representation. Using mythological fantasies, the virtual and the speculative, these artists are shaping aesthetic forms and narratives that challenge binary identity politics. (source: TAF website)

The talks programme was curated by Kefiloe Siwisa and Nomvoyu Horwitz. Thanks to them and Turbine Art Fair for allowing us to record and host this panel discussion on Unframed.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S02 E02 / Talk: 'Art Investment' at Turbine Art Fair 2019</title>
		<link>https://iono.fm/e/741947</link>
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		<description><![CDATA[This episode is the first of a series of 4 talks that were recorded at Turbine Art Fair 2019. <br />
<br />
Title: "It was Given to me to Give to You: Art collecting & inter-generational wealth creation"<br />
<br />
Panel discussion with Jack Ginsberg (Ampersand Foundation), Sean Meyersfeld (investment specialist) and Dr Alastair Meredith (Senior Art Specialist: Strauss & Co)<br />
<br />
In this panel, art’s potential as a form of wealth creation and legacy building will be explored. Investment specialists and collectors will discuss how establishing an art collection can be an integral part of a robust investment portfolio. (source: TAF website)<br />
<br />
The talks programme was curated by Kefiloe Siwisa and Nomvoyu Horwitz. Thanks to them and Turbine Art Fair for allowing us to record and host this panel discussion on Unframed. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Sep 2019 12:35:00 +0200</pubDate>
				<podcast:season>0</podcast:season>
		<podcast:episode>0</podcast:episode>
						<itunes:title>S02 E02 / Talk: 'Art Investment' at Turbine Art Fair 2019</itunes:title>
		<itunes:season>0</itunes:season>
		<itunes:episode>0</itunes:episode>
		<itunes:author>Anthea Pokroy</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>1:03:07</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[This episode is the first of a series of 4 talks that were recorded at Turbine Art Fair 2019. 

Title: "It was Given to me to Give to You: Art collecting & inter-generational wealth creation"

Panel discussion with Jack Ginsberg (Ampersand Foundation), Sean Meyersfeld (investment specialist) and Dr Alastair Meredith (Senior Art Specialist: Strauss & Co)

In this panel, art’s potential as a form of wealth creation and legacy building will be explored. Investment specialists and collectors will discuss how establishing an art collection can be an integral part of a robust investment portfolio. (source: TAF website)

The talks programme was curated by Kefiloe Siwisa and Nomvoyu Horwitz. Thanks to them and Turbine Art Fair for allowing us to record and host this panel discussion on Unframed.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S02 E01 / Interview: 'FNB Art Joburg 2019' with Mandla Sibeko</title>
		<link>https://iono.fm/e/738791</link>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome back to Unframed - a podcast which hosts talks and conversations about South African art and artists. I am your host Anthea Pokroy. You may have noticed a very large gap between this and the last episode. I was finishing off my Masters in Fine Art and so, unfortunately, had to focus all my energy on that. But Unframed is now back and we are looking forward to the program that is to follow in the coming months!<br />
<br />
In this episode, I am excited to be in conversation with Mandla Sibeko, the new owner and director of Art Joburg which is a new incarnation of the iconic Joburg Art Fair. This rebranded and revisioned art fair will take place in a few weeks from 13-15 September at Sandton Convention Centre. <br />
<br />
In this interview, Mandla explains to me this shift from the old to the new, and the reasons behind it; what this new art fair will consist of - what we as visitors can expect to see and experience at the fair; the role of this and other art fairs in Joburg, South Africa and internationally in the broader art ecosystem.<br />
<br />
Be sure to clear your calendars between 13-15 September for Art Joburg and its affiliated Gallery Weekend, as well as for Latitudes Art Fair and The Underline Show happening the same weekend. Check out their websites and social media for more info on very exciting showcases of South African art:<br />
Art Joburg: https://artjoburg.com/<br />
Latitudes Art Fair: https://latitudesartfair.com/<br />
The Underline Show: https://underlineprojects.art/<br />
<br />
I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on Art Joburg and the other fairs happening at this time? Please feel free to comment on the post for this episode on Facebook (https://facebook.com/unframedpodcast) and Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast/). <br />
<br />
Dont forget to subscribe to Unframed Podcast on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/za/podcast/unframed) and instantly receive new episodes as they are released<br />
Giving a review would be awesome too please!<br />
<br />
Thanks for joining me, until next time! <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Aug 2019 08:31:00 +0200</pubDate>
				<podcast:season>0</podcast:season>
		<podcast:episode>0</podcast:episode>
						<itunes:title>S02 E01 / Interview: 'FNB Art Joburg 2019' with Mandla Sibeko</itunes:title>
		<itunes:season>0</itunes:season>
		<itunes:episode>0</itunes:episode>
		<itunes:author>Anthea Pokroy</itunes:author>
					<itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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		<itunes:duration>51:51</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[Welcome back to Unframed - a podcast which hosts talks and conversations about South African art and artists. I am your host Anthea Pokroy. You may have noticed a very large gap between this and the last episode. I was finishing off my Masters in Fine Art and so, unfortunately, had to focus all my energy on that. But Unframed is now back and we are looking forward to the program that is to follow in the coming months!

In this episode, I am excited to be in conversation with Mandla Sibeko, the new owner and director of Art Joburg which is a new incarnation of the iconic Joburg Art Fair. This rebranded and revisioned art fair will take place in a few weeks from 13-15 September at Sandton Convention Centre. 

In this interview, Mandla explains to me this shift from the old to the new, and the reasons behind it; what this new art fair will consist of - what we as visitors can expect to see and experience at the fair; the role of this and other art fairs in Joburg, South Africa and internationally in the broader art ecosystem.

Be sure to clear your calendars between 13-15 September for Art Joburg and its affiliated Gallery Weekend, as well as for Latitudes Art Fair and The Underline Show happening the same weekend. Check out their websites and social media for more info on very exciting showcases of South African art:
Art Joburg: https://artjoburg.com/
Latitudes Art Fair: https://latitudesartfair.com/
The Underline Show: https://underlineprojects.art/

I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on Art Joburg and the other fairs happening at this time? Please feel free to comment on the post for this episode on Facebook (https://facebook.com/unframedpodcast) and Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast/). 

Dont forget to subscribe to Unframed Podcast on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/za/podcast/unframed) and instantly receive new episodes as they are released
Giving a review would be awesome too please!

Thanks for joining me, until next time!]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S01 E10 / Interview: ‘Artist Copyright’ with Eitan Stern</title>
		<link>https://iono.fm/e/634709</link>
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		<description><![CDATA[In today’s episode I interview lawyer Eitan Stern from Legalese about artist copyright and other legal aspects that artists should consider in making work and in their careers. My intial interest in chatting with Eitan arose from an incident that occurred at the Joburg Art Fair this September 2018, where South African photographer Graeme Williams accused American artist Hank Willis Thomas of using William's photograph in Willis’ own artwork without his permission. Read more about it and see the images here: <br />
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/sep/13/graeme-williams-hank-willis-thomas-photograph<br />
We use this case to discuss further issues of artist copyright and what artists should be considering when using other people’s images in their own artwork. We also explore the rights of photographers, as well as the business of arts. Eitan encourages artists to be professional by using contracts and to take the initiative to understand fully every transaction that is made. This episode is really insightful especially for emerging artists and photographers.<br />
<br />
Contact Legalese here: https://legalese.co.za/#contact-us-section<br />
Read the article on How Not To Get Sued for Your Photography here: https://10and5.com/2018/09/25/not-get-sued-photography/<br />
Sign up as a member with VANSA here: https://vansa.co.za/membership/ <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2018 15:52:00 +0200</pubDate>
				<podcast:season>0</podcast:season>
		<podcast:episode>0</podcast:episode>
						<itunes:title>S01 E10 / Interview: ‘Artist Copyright’ with Eitan Stern</itunes:title>
		<itunes:season>0</itunes:season>
		<itunes:episode>0</itunes:episode>
		<itunes:author>Anthea Pokroy</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>50:29</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[In today’s episode I interview lawyer Eitan Stern from Legalese about artist copyright and other legal aspects that artists should consider in making work and in their careers. My intial interest in chatting with Eitan arose from an incident that occurred at the Joburg Art Fair this September 2018, where South African photographer Graeme Williams accused American artist Hank Willis Thomas of using William's photograph in Willis’ own artwork without his permission. Read more about it and see the images here: 
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/sep/13/graeme-williams-hank-willis-thomas-photograph
We use this case to discuss further issues of artist copyright and what artists should be considering when using other people’s images in their own artwork. We also explore the rights of photographers, as well as the business of arts. Eitan encourages artists to be professional by using contracts and to take the initiative to understand fully every transaction that is made. This episode is really insightful especially for emerging artists and photographers.

Contact Legalese here: https://legalese.co.za/#contact-us-section
Read the article on How Not To Get Sued for Your Photography here: https://10and5.com/2018/09/25/not-get-sued-photography/
Sign up as a member with VANSA here: https://vansa.co.za/membership/]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S01 E09 / Talk: William Kentridge and Yinka Shonibare</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This episode is part of of the "Talk” component of Unframed, as opposed to the “Interview” which is an interview directly with your host Anthea Pokroy. The “Talk” component features art dialogues, talks and panel discussions that happen around the country outside of this podcast, but where we are lucky enough to add the content to this platform for many to hear. I was fortunate to attend this one in September 2018, between artists William Kentridge and Yinka Shonibare. Shonibare, a British-Nigerian artist based in the UK, came to South Africa in September for the opening of his exhibition at the Goodman Gallery. As part of the Centre for the Less Good Idea’s Once Off program, Kentridge hosted Shonibare for a conversation between the two prolific artists. Thank you so much to the Centre, the Goodman Gallery and the FNB Art Fair for allowing the recording of this dynamic conversation to be aired on Unframed. Enjoy listening to William Kentridge and Yinka Shonibare in dialogue about their art practices <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2018 07:42:00 +0200</pubDate>
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						<itunes:title>S01 E09 / Talk: William Kentridge and Yinka Shonibare</itunes:title>
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		<title>S01 E08 / Interview: “Artistic Practice” with Bronwyn Lace</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this 8th episode, we speak to artist Brownyn Lace about her current exhibition, Mirror Mirror, showing at Everard Read Gallery in Johannesburg until 6 October 2018. We chat about this show and how it is to work with a big gallery, as well as her many different roles in the industry including that of animateur for The Centre for the Less Good Idea. She talks about her process, studio practice, the importance of working in a community and being part of the “bigger picture”, and the value of creating relationships in the industry. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2018 09:19:00 +0200</pubDate>
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						<itunes:title>S01 E08 / Interview: “Artistic Practice” with Bronwyn Lace</itunes:title>
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		<title>S01 E07 / Interview: “Joburg Art Fair 2018” with Mary Corrigall</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this 7th episode of Unframed, we speak about the Joburg Art Fair which just took place last weekend, 7-9 September 2018. I’m not going to lie this is the event of the year for me, I really enjoy seeing all the people in the art world, and its a good survey of work that is happening in South Africa, and bits of other African countries, albeit a very specific sector of the market. I think it is important to reflect on this event critically whilst acknowledging its benefits to the industry. I have invited arts writer, curator and consultant, Mary Corrigall to join me in a discussion around this year’s fair, the role of the art fair in the broader arts landscape, and I chat to her about her research report which surveys the contemporary arts in Africa, which can be found here: https://www.corrigall.org/art-reports<br />
Enjoy listening to my conversation with Mary Corrigall. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2018 08:43:00 +0200</pubDate>
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						<itunes:title>S01 E07 / Interview: “Joburg Art Fair 2018” with Mary Corrigall</itunes:title>
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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this 7th episode of Unframed, we speak about the Joburg Art Fair which just took place last weekend, 7-9 September 2018. I’m not going to lie this is the event of the year for me, I really enjoy seeing all the people in the art world, and its a good survey of work that is happening in South Africa, and bits of other African countries, albeit a very specific sector of the market. I think it is important to reflect on this event critically whilst acknowledging its benefits to the industry. I have invited arts writer, curator and consultant, Mary Corrigall to join me in a discussion around this year’s fair, the role of the art fair in the broader arts landscape, and I chat to her about her research report which surveys the contemporary arts in Africa, which can be found here: https://www.corrigall.org/art-reports
Enjoy listening to my conversation with Mary Corrigall.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S01 E06 / Interview: “Tribute to David Goldblatt” with Neil Dundas</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today’s 6th episode is a special one - it is a tribute to the legendary South African photography David Goldblatt, who died recently in June 2018 at the age of 87. I chat to Neil Dundas, long time friend and the senior curator of the Goodman Gallery, where David has showed his work since the 90s. We reflect on the life and work of Goldblatt - an internationally renowned photographer who gained recognition for his work during the apartheid era, but who has continued to take photos until the weeks leading up to his death. We talk about his work, his personality, his resistance to being called an “artist”, despite his abundant and invaluable contributions to the South African arts industry. The exhibition we refer to in the episode has just taken place at the Goodman Gallery in Johannesburg - it is called “On Common Ground: David Goldblatt and Peter Magubane” curated by Paul Weinberg. It sets up a dialogue between these two photographers work - which document the same period in South African history from vastly different perspectives. Enjoy listening to this episode - a tribute to David Goldblatt. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2018 09:27:00 +0200</pubDate>
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						<itunes:title>S01 E06 / Interview: “Tribute to David Goldblatt” with Neil Dundas</itunes:title>
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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today’s 6th episode is a special one - it is a tribute to the legendary South African photography David Goldblatt, who died recently in June 2018 at the age of 87. I chat to Neil Dundas, long time friend and the senior curator of the Goodman Gallery, where David has showed his work since the 90s. We reflect on the life and work of Goldblatt - an internationally renowned photographer who gained recognition for his work during the apartheid era, but who has continued to take photos until the weeks leading up to his death. We talk about his work, his personality, his resistance to being called an “artist”, despite his abundant and invaluable contributions to the South African arts industry. The exhibition we refer to in the episode has just taken place at the Goodman Gallery in Johannesburg - it is called “On Common Ground: David Goldblatt and Peter Magubane” curated by Paul Weinberg. It sets up a dialogue between these two photographers work - which document the same period in South African history from vastly different perspectives. Enjoy listening to this episode - a tribute to David Goldblatt.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S01 E05 / Interview: “New Directors at Stevenson” with Alex Richards &amp; Sisipho Ngodwana</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alex and Sisipho have just been appointed new directors at Stevenson Gallery. We talk about their new positions, the exhibition they have curated at both the Joburg and Cape Town galleries called 'Both, And' (on until 24 August 2018), what it means to be represented by the gallery, Alex's famous artist parents Colin Richards and Penny Siopis, and Sisipho's own art practice and with her collective iQhiya. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2018 09:19:00 +0200</pubDate>
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						<itunes:title>S01 E05 / Interview: “New Directors at Stevenson” with Alex Richards &amp; Sisipho Ngodwana</itunes:title>
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		<title>S01 E04 / Interview: “Art Journalism” with Matthew Blackman</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this fourth episode, I chat to writer and art critic Matthew Blackman, who is based in Cape Town, over Skype. My initial interest in interviewing Matthew at this time, is that he has been the leading journalist in the recent Zeitz Mocca controversy. We chat about this, and his initial scepticism regarding the museum. We also talk about the South African art industry, his concerns about the market driving artists into producing more commercial work, the Venice Biennale controversy of 2011, and about his own personal writing. I have placed a link to Matthew’s website, as well as link to many of the articles Matthew has written about the South African arts industry. <br />
<br />
https://matthewblackman.com/<br />
https://artthrob.co.za/article-author/matthew-blackman/ <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:42:00 +0200</pubDate>
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		<itunes:episode>0</itunes:episode>
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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this fourth episode, I chat to writer and art critic Matthew Blackman, who is based in Cape Town, over Skype. My initial interest in interviewing Matthew at this time, is that he has been the leading journalist in the recent Zeitz Mocca controversy. We chat about this, and his initial scepticism regarding the museum. We also talk about the South African art industry, his concerns about the market driving artists into producing more commercial work, the Venice Biennale controversy of 2011, and about his own personal writing. I have placed a link to Matthew’s website, as well as link to many of the articles Matthew has written about the South African arts industry. 

https://matthewblackman.com/
https://artthrob.co.za/article-author/matthew-blackman/]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S01 E03 / Interview: “Exhibition at Kalashnikovv” with Ayanda Mabulu</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this third episode, I interviewed Ayanda Mabulu about his current exhibition, his practice, his spirituality and his politics, and really gained insight into why he makes the seemingly controversial work that he makes. <br />
<br />
It was a really interesting and provocative conversation. Ayanda is a storyteller and, in between the swearing, he speaks passionately, critically, and poetically. I know that what he says some people will love and some people will hate, but I’m really interested to hear your response to it. We spoke for almost 2 hours, so this is an edited version of it. If you can you should definitely try see Ayanda’s show before it closes. Its at Kalashnikovv Gallery in Braamfontein until 2 July 2018. I’m still trying to get into a rhythm with releasing the interviews so it doesn’t leave you too much time, but otherwise you can find a lot of his work online. Just a warning that this episode contains a lot of profanities and language that may be offensive. But otherwise, please enjoy listening to my chat with Ayanda. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2018 09:30:00 +0200</pubDate>
				<podcast:season>0</podcast:season>
		<podcast:episode>0</podcast:episode>
						<itunes:title>S01 E03 / Interview: “Exhibition at Kalashnikovv” with Ayanda Mabulu</itunes:title>
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		<itunes:episode>0</itunes:episode>
		<itunes:author>Anthea Pokroy</itunes:author>
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		<itunes:duration>50:58</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this third episode, I interviewed Ayanda Mabulu about his current exhibition, his practice, his spirituality and his politics, and really gained insight into why he makes the seemingly controversial work that he makes. 

It was a really interesting and provocative conversation. Ayanda is a storyteller and, in between the swearing, he speaks passionately, critically, and poetically. I know that what he says some people will love and some people will hate, but I’m really interested to hear your response to it. We spoke for almost 2 hours, so this is an edited version of it. If you can you should definitely try see Ayanda’s show before it closes. Its at Kalashnikovv Gallery in Braamfontein until 2 July 2018. I’m still trying to get into a rhythm with releasing the interviews so it doesn’t leave you too much time, but otherwise you can find a lot of his work online. Just a warning that this episode contains a lot of profanities and language that may be offensive. But otherwise, please enjoy listening to my chat with Ayanda.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S01 E02 / Talk: “Artistic Practice” by ruby onyinyechi amanze</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This second episode is something different from the one before. It is a recorded artist talk by ruby onyinyechi amanze which took place at the Goodman Gallery on 22 May 2018. <br />
<br />
Ruby, who is a Nigerian born, US-based artist, was over in South Africa for her solo exhibition at Goodman Gallery in Cape Town, and gave a talk up in Joburg about her exhibition and studio practice in general.<br />
<br />
When I first decided to do this podcast, the primary format was the interview between myself and an invited guest, but then I realised that there were so many exciting conversations already happening in the city; so much content being generated at artist talks, walkabouts and informal dialogues. I wanted to record and create an archive of these already existing conversations and give them a platform for more people to listen. So, this is the first of this kind in the podcast series and they will feature randomly in the future.<br />
In this episode, Ruby talks about drawing, space, and how she navigates the questions and challenges within her studio practice. I was struck by her utter comfort of being in this very generative space of “not knowing”. <br />
<br />
Here is a link to her presentation from the talk for those who would like to see what she is talking about whilst listening: https://bit.ly/2trvzYs. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2018 09:43:00 +0200</pubDate>
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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[This second episode is something different from the one before. It is a recorded artist talk by ruby onyinyechi amanze which took place at the Goodman Gallery on 22 May 2018. 

Ruby, who is a Nigerian born, US-based artist, was over in South Africa for her solo exhibition at Goodman Gallery in Cape Town, and gave a talk up in Joburg about her exhibition and studio practice in general.

When I first decided to do this podcast, the primary format was the interview between myself and an invited guest, but then I realised that there were so many exciting conversations already happening in the city; so much content being generated at artist talks, walkabouts and informal dialogues. I wanted to record and create an archive of these already existing conversations and give them a platform for more people to listen. So, this is the first of this kind in the podcast series and they will feature randomly in the future.
In this episode, Ruby talks about drawing, space, and how she navigates the questions and challenges within her studio practice. I was struck by her utter comfort of being in this very generative space of “not knowing”. 

Here is a link to her presentation from the talk for those who would like to see what she is talking about whilst listening: https://bit.ly/2trvzYs.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S01 E01 / Interview: “Kalashnikovv Gallery” with MJ Turpin &amp; Matt Dowdle</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the first episode, I chat to founders of the Kalashnikovv Gallery - MJ Turpin and Matthew Dean Dowdle. They have just relaunched their new gallery space at the 70 Juta Precinct in Braamfontein, Johannesburg. Kalashnikovv was first founded in 2013 by the duo out of frustration with the existing gallery discourse in South Africa at the time. Over the years they have experimented with interdisciplinary events, a project space, and now, a more commercial gallery space. They aim to challenge perceptions of the industry and make art accessible for all. In this episode, we chat about:<br />
* the importance of the gallery’s growth alongside their artists’ careers<br />
* collaborating with other galleries in order for their artists to gain more exposure<br />
* how the gallery has survived over the years<br />
* making art “cool again” and how they are doing things differently to other galleries<br />
* and how the interdisciplinary events help them to deeply understand the “creative culture of the city” <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 14:26:00 +0200</pubDate>
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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[For the first episode, I chat to founders of the Kalashnikovv Gallery - MJ Turpin and Matthew Dean Dowdle. They have just relaunched their new gallery space at the 70 Juta Precinct in Braamfontein, Johannesburg. Kalashnikovv was first founded in 2013 by the duo out of frustration with the existing gallery discourse in South Africa at the time. Over the years they have experimented with interdisciplinary events, a project space, and now, a more commercial gallery space. They aim to challenge perceptions of the industry and make art accessible for all. In this episode, we chat about:
* the importance of the gallery’s growth alongside their artists’ careers
* collaborating with other galleries in order for their artists to gain more exposure
* how the gallery has survived over the years
* making art “cool again” and how they are doing things differently to other galleries
* and how the interdisciplinary events help them to deeply understand the “creative culture of the city”]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>S01 E00: Introduction to Unframed</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A short intro to your host, Anthea Pokroy, and why she has started this podcast. <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unframedpodcast">Instagram</a>]]></description>
					<category>Visual Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 14:19:00 +0200</pubDate>
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						<itunes:title>S01 E00: Introduction to Unframed</itunes:title>
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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[A short intro to your host, Anthea Pokroy, and why she has started this podcast.]]></itunes:summary>
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