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		<title>Chatting Change: Multipreneur Mo Malele on making the most of yourself in today's changing world of work</title>
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<br />
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Poet, blogger, vlogger, public speaker, and content producer too, the tireless, fast-taking Mo offers her take on what it takes to succeed in business today.<br />
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Chatting Change is made just for you, by BrightRock – the first ever needs-matched life insurance that changes as your life changes. #LoveChange. ]]></description>
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Poet, blogger, vlogger, public speaker, and content producer too, the tireless, fast-taking Mo offers her take on what it takes to succeed in business today.

Chatting Change is made just for you, by BrightRock – the first ever needs-matched life insurance that changes as your life changes. #LoveChange.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>Chatting Change: The heavy costs, financial &amp; emotional, of striving to bring a child into the world</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love is the currency you need to raise a child, but let’s be honest: it takes a bit of money too. Still, even as you tally up the ever-growing budget, spare a thought for those couples whose greater struggle is to bring a child into the world. How do prospective parents, battling to cope with fertility issues, handle with the expense and intrusion of the rigorous procedures? Aside from the financial costs of fertility treatment, what are the relationship and social costs, as they dream of the joys and rewards yet to come? Find out as Dr Sumayya Ebrahim joins us in the studio. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2019 14:26:00 +0200</pubDate>
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		<podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode>
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		<title>Chatting Change: Where do you stand, when living together turns to falling apart?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the “co" in cohabitation stands for commitment, connection, and companion, what happens when everything it stands for falls apart? For young couples who choose to live together before or instead of getting married, it’s a tough question that must be tackled, no matter how happily they’re habitating. So what are your rights when things go wrong? Psychologist Mpho Molepo pops into the studio to chat about the legalities and emotionalities of a cohabitational breakup.<br />
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Chatting Change is made just for you, by BrightRock – the first ever needs-matched life insurance that changes as your life changes. #LoveChange. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2019 10:17:00 +0200</pubDate>
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Chatting Change is made just for you, by BrightRock – the first ever needs-matched life insurance that changes as your life changes. #LoveChange.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>Chatting Change: Super-Planner Precious on Preventing &amp; Surviving Wedding Day Disasters</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whether the Big Day is a grand traditional affair or a trendy contemporary celebration, every wedding is fraught with the prospect of the most carefully-calculated plans going wrong, wrong, wrong. That’s why more and more forward-thinking couples are outsourcing every detail of their nuptials to expert wedding planners who know what it takes to remain cool, calm, and collected in a crisis. And few are more practised at planning and executing the Perfect Wedding than Precious “The Planner” Thamaga, who shares her secrets, tips, and precious memories, including the tale of the long-delayed groom who almost got away.<br />
Chatting Change is made just for you, by BrightRock – the first ever needs-matched life insurance that changes as your life changes. #LoveChange. ]]></description>
					<category>Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2019 13:08:00 +0200</pubDate>
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		<podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode>
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Chatting Change is made just for you, by BrightRock – the first ever needs-matched life insurance that changes as your life changes. #LoveChange.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>Chatting Change: Take a break! Why going for the gap can put you back on track</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Between school and varsity and choosing a career, between tying the knot and finding a home and raising a family, there’s barely time to pause in the hurly-burly of modern life. Which is why, for more and more people, taking a gap has become an essential mechanism for recalibrating, recharging, and reflecting. Once a traditional rite of passage for school-leavers, the gap year is now equally popular with young professionals in search of a change of pace and place. Whether you use that gap to travel for leisure, work in another country, or just re-explore who you are and what you want out of life, the personal sabbatical can be highly rewarding and invigorating. But how do you plan financially for the gap, and how do you start all over again when you get back to work? Join Lopang Mokae, who taught English in Asia during her change-break abroad, to learn the answers.<br />
<br />
Chatting Change is made just for you, by BrightRock – the first ever needs-matched life insurance that changes as your life changes. #LoveChange. ]]></description>
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Chatting Change is made just for you, by BrightRock – the first ever needs-matched life insurance that changes as your life changes. #LoveChange.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>Chatting Change: The Win-Win Secret to Giving Your Relationship a Fighting Chance</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[It takes two to fall hopelessly, head over heels in love, just as it takes two to fall into a bitter, raging argument about…well, what? It could be something serious, such as whether or not to have children, take up a job offer overseas, sell up and move home, or listen to mom-in-law’s advice on how to have a happy marriage.<br />
It could be something so trivial and fleeting, that eventually, in the midst of the battle, you’ve long forgotten why you started fighting in the first place. Conflict is a natural part of any relationship, all the more so in a time of change, which is why learning to manage conflict is so vital to getting along. <br />
As clinical psychologist Dr Vuyo Themba explains in this episode of Chatting Change, love, on its own, isn’t enough. You need to learn to talk, openly and from the heart, in the knowledge that you may not be the one to emerge victorious. Having those difficult conversations is more important, as is the willingness to negotiate and compromise, in the best interests of each other. Because it takes two, after all, to work things out. <br />
Chatting Change is made just for you, by BrightRock – the first ever needs-matched life insurance that changes as your life changes. #LoveChange. ]]></description>
					<category>Arts</category>
				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Dec 2019 15:52:00 +0200</pubDate>
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		<podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode>
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		<itunes:summary><![CDATA[It takes two to fall hopelessly, head over heels in love, just as it takes two to fall into a bitter, raging argument about…well, what? It could be something serious, such as whether or not to have children, take up a job offer overseas, sell up and move home, or listen to mom-in-law’s advice on how to have a happy marriage.
It could be something so trivial and fleeting, that eventually, in the midst of the battle, you’ve long forgotten why you started fighting in the first place. Conflict is a natural part of any relationship, all the more so in a time of change, which is why learning to manage conflict is so vital to getting along. 
As clinical psychologist Dr Vuyo Themba explains in this episode of Chatting Change, love, on its own, isn’t enough. You need to learn to talk, openly and from the heart, in the knowledge that you may not be the one to emerge victorious. Having those difficult conversations is more important, as is the willingness to negotiate and compromise, in the best interests of each other. Because it takes two, after all, to work things out. 
Chatting Change is made just for you, by BrightRock – the first ever needs-matched life insurance that changes as your life changes. #LoveChange.]]></itunes:summary>
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		<title>Chatting Change: For richer or for poorer, what’s the real cost of tying the knot?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Money can’t buy you love, as that famous foursome from Liverpool put it many years ago, but it certainly can buy you the wedding of your dreams. Before you pop the question, however, ask yourself how much you’re willing to spend on your special day, no matter who may be footing the bill. From venue to catering to photography, what’s the price of tying the knot in today’s ever-inflating economy? What are the options for a more modest and scaled-down event, such as a t-shirt & takkies ceremony on a beach? That’s how funnyman Jason Goliath and his wife Sian Baile celebrated their recent betrothal, even if they did jet off to the Maldives for a second and more elaborate wedding soon after. Jason joins us in the studio to share his thoughts, tips, and quips.<br />
Chatting Change is made just for you, by BrightRock – the first ever needs-matched life insurance that changes as your life changes. #LoveChange. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2019 13:41:00 +0200</pubDate>
				<podcast:season>1</podcast:season>
		<podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode>
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Chatting Change is made just for you, by BrightRock – the first ever needs-matched life insurance that changes as your life changes. #LoveChange.]]></itunes:summary>
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